[Hackrf-dev] Finding the Interference with directional antenna?
Cinaed Simson
cinaed.simson at gmail.com
Wed Dec 7 22:44:29 EST 2016
Install aircrack-ng and use a $18 Alfa APA-M25 2.4/5 GHz directional
patch antenna.
You may also need a variable attenuator if the source is high power and
nearby.
Check out Ebay.
Or try an indoor yagi from simplewifi.com but they cost more than a
patch antenna.
-- Cinaed
On 12/07/2016 11:59 AM, Tamer Çelik wrote:
> Hello again Scott,
>
> After running some tests with HackRF, i can say that its not capable to
> demodulate wifi signals due its sampling rate.
> And yes, bandwidth is limited to 20MHz but issue occurs on all channels.
> I am going to reanalyze everything with usb wifi dongle using inSSIDet
> as mentioned by Garvin.
> Do you recommend any other tool for such task?
> I cant see which tool you sent on screenshot.
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Dec 7, 2016 18:03, "Scott Davis" <scottk5ta at gmail.com
> <mailto:scottk5ta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The HackRF is limited to a 20-MHz bandwidth, which is the
> approximate width of a single wi-fi channel. The wi-fi radio in
> your computer might be a better sniffing tool, with some type of
> scanning/analysis software that can show the entire band at once.
> With the HackRF, you would need to ”tune around” in frequency as
> well as spatial orientation to get an idea of the signals in your
> vicinity.
>
> -Scott
>
> Example:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/hDY7ElO2wAnlVQQ0pesLH70qvAf4xviDvpI2SFtLfpv
> <https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/hDY7ElO2wAnlVQQ0pesLH70qvAf4xviDvpI2SFtLfpv>
>
>
>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 5:51 AM, Tamer Çelik <tamercelik at gmail.com
>> <mailto:tamercelik at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> Thanks for all the tips.
>> I was thinking getting this antenna:
>> https://www.amazon.com/Super-Power-Supply-Directional-Wireless/dp/B016APUGB6/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481113798&sr=1-8&keywords=wifi+directional
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Super-Power-Supply-Directional-Wireless/dp/B016APUGB6/ref=sr_1_8?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1481113798&sr=1-8&keywords=wifi+directional>
>> It's compact and perfect for 2.4 GHz band. Just need to get an
>> RP-SMA to SMA converter adapter to use it with HackRF.
>>
>> But i am still not sure where to look for interference.
>> Which software i should use and what should i look for?
>> I was thinking running SDRsharp with RX gain settings adjusted
>> (low gain settings to pick any signal from 2.4GHz device when i
>> physically close to it)
>> I have decided to use HackRF after i came across a wifi analyzer
>> device called Chanalyzer http://www.metageek.com/products/wi-spy/
>> <http://www.metageek.com/products/wi-spy/> They provide a fancy
>> software to determine possible intereference source and they are
>> quite expensive, around $2000.
>> But i think i won't need any fancy software or look out for any
>> specific waveform determine this interference, right?
>> Again, i have no idea what should i look for. (Noise? Waveform?)
>>
>> Any ideas would be great.
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Scott Davis <scottk5ta at gmail.com
>> <mailto:scottk5ta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> There are many, many commercial directional antennas available
>> for the 2.4 GHz band. Dish Network operates in the Ku-band,
>> around 12 GHz, so their dishes are a bit small for 2.4, but it
>> sounds like fun to play with one…it’s a lot easier to use a
>> smaller, lightweight yagi. They come in all sizes. Here’s
>> one example:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Z4I7WQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>> <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008Z4I7WQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
>>
>> -Scott
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2016, at 8:41 PM, Chuck McManis
>>> <chuck.mcmanis at gmail.com <mailto:chuck.mcmanis at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> In the US there is a company called Dish Network (satellite
>>> TV) they
>>> use a small dish antenna to talk to the satellites, it also
>>> makes a
>>> great starting point for a directional WiFi antenna. Remove
>>> the LNB
>>> that is normally in the antenna and tape a WiFi chip antenna
>>> at the
>>> focal point. You can then point quite accurately at various WiFi
>>> sources.
>>>
>>> <http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M2844c9d84173dc5d1b923fed7c9edf64o0&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0
>>> <http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=OIP.M2844c9d84173dc5d1b923fed7c9edf64o0&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0&r=0>>
>>> is a picture of one of these antennas.
>>>
>>> --Chuck
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Tamer Çelik
>>> <tamercelik at gmail.com <mailto:tamercelik at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I am having a strange interference issue on my 2.4GHz WiFi
>>>> network while
>>>> 5GHz band works perfect.
>>>> This might be coming from one of my neighbours.
>>>> Just wanted to ask if its possible to use a "directional"
>>>> antenna with
>>>> HackRF and explore the area for possible source of interference?
>>>> I am pretty sure on that something jamming 2.4GHz for random
>>>> intervals.
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
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