[IPAC-List] personality tests

[Morris, Ramona (JUS)]

I don't have time to look it up, but I recall a report on a personality test that used "positive" characteristics for both ends of each scale.  I think it was a U of Toronto dissertation.  

e.g. instead of something like: conscientious vs impulsive it used something more like conscientious vs creative

Sorry I can't be more specific... but it sounded very promising at the time.  Has anyone used something similar?


Ramona
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From: ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org [mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org] On Behalf Of Patrick McCoy
Sent: November 15, 2011 11:57 AM
To: Rene Shekerjian; IPAC-List; Mark Hammer
Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Test taking advice for personality tests

Some (many?) of the self-report personality tools do seem to have overly
simplistic assumptions and probably can be "gamed" by many candidates.
 
Does anyone know of any self-report personality measures for which
there is sound evidence of validity when used with applicants to
professional jobs?
 
Pat McCoy
Ottawa, Canada
 
   

>>> "Shekerjian, Rene" <Rene.Shekerjian at cs.state.ny.us> 2011/11/15

11:21 AM >>>
Okay, devil's advocate here (gets ready to duck).

If the various "psych-out-the test" posting are correct in what they
identify as the correct answers to the integrity tests (and similar
instruments) used by stores such as Best Buy, then I can see how it
appears that they throw good candidates for a loop. And yes, I
understand that the tests may have been validated in some fashion.

However, if there is some truth to what they say, my sense is that if
you are extremely honest and thoughtful, and answer the questions
sincerely, there is a good chance you are going to come up with answers
that do not line up with the "key." 

I freely admit that I do not know how integrity tests and
conscientiousness tests work other than from a very cursory standpoint.
But I will note that there is some substantial controversy in the IO
literature about how effective such tests are. And given that, is it not
reasonable for your average citizen to have doubts? And if that person
is trying to get a job and feels unjustly rejected, might that not
create some hard feelings?

Just a thought...

René 

René Shekerjian | Testing Services Division | NYS Department of Civil
Service | 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hammer [mailto:Mark.Hammer at psc-cfp.gc.ca] 
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:01 AM
To: IPAC-List
Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Test taking advice for personality tests

What stands out most for me is the rather adversarial nature of the
site.  And of course, the posted comments only further express the
"us-vs-them" mentality many have adopted.

Now, I won't stand up and proclaim that ALL employers know what
they're
doing when it comes to using personality instruments for selection
purposes, or approach selection with only benevolence in mind, but at
least one of the objectives is to place people in jobs they will be
happy in because they are well-suited to it.  Why on earth people
would
wish to mis-portray themselves to be able to weasel into jobs they
will
likely not intend to stay in is beyond me.  How they expect to receive
glowing performance reviews in positions that conflict with their
"natural tendencies" is also beyond me.

Having said that, you will note that the term used on the site is
personality "test", not personality instrument or battery or
assessment,
etc.  The comments are from high school students, who confuse what
they
typically encounter as "tests" with what the assessment tool is
supposed
to do.  All too often, they perceive "tests" as largely unethical
barriers to their further advancement.  As in "Hey, Mr. Hammer, I
studied really hard and came to class most of the time, with my phone
turned off most of the time, but you made the test too tricky/hard".

Personally, I think we have some homework to do with respect to
recasting assessment tools as a kind of match-making.  Rather than
"Are
you good enough to work for me?" (because most believe they are),
something more on the order of "Is this job right for you?" (where
"rejection" could be perceived as a benevolent act).

Mark Hammer
Ottawa


>>> Joel Wiesen <jwiesen at appliedpersonnelresearch.com> 2011/11/14 9:46

AM >>>
FWIW, found on the web:

http://www.ehow.com/how_4446746_pass-preemployment-personality-test.html



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