[IPAC-List] Question re: MQs

Wilkening, Kurt WilkeningK at HillsboroughCounty.ORG
Wed Jan 22 07:26:04 EST 2014


mer*it

noun: merit
1. 1.
the quality of being particularly good or worthy, esp. so as to deserve praise or reward


Placing an MQ statement on a job announcement of "X" number of years of experience and/or having a B.S. degree with a particular major provides little evidence that if selected an applicant would be particularly good at or worthy of the job.


Kurt Wilkening
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From: ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org [mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Doverspike
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 10:33 PM
To: Bryan Baldwin
Cc: ipac-list at ipacweb.org
Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Question re: MQs

I have long thought this would make an interesting paper or symposium topic

my short answer - without being a lawyer or political scientist - is that merit is often operationally defined as "the result of a competitive examination." by definition then merit excludes having met the minimum qualification

I have argued before, however, that we do not give enough though to the definition of merit - especially in compensation and pay equity. It also seems as if the Canadians have done far more in terms of defining merit - as I remember from a previous Hammer post on the definition of merit in Canada.





On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Bryan Baldwin <Bryan.Baldwin at doj.ca.gov<mailto:Bryan.Baldwin at doj.ca.gov>> wrote:
No, I don't believe so. "Merit" in this sense refers to the decades-old concept that was put in place to remedy/avoid historical civil service sins such as political patronage. It does, however, encompass the concept of being "qualified".

B

From: Dennis Doverspike [mailto:dennisdoverspike at gmail.com<mailto:dennisdoverspike at gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 3:58 PM
To: Bryan Baldwin
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Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Question re: MQs

Bryan - what do you mean by merit-related? would that correspond to job-related?

Dennis

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Bryan Baldwin <Bryan.Baldwin at doj.ca.gov<mailto:Bryan.Baldwin at doj.ca.gov>> wrote:
Hi all - question sorta related to a conversation we were having a few weeks ago: can anyone point me to any articles, studies, etc. that analyze the issue of whether minimum qualifications are merit-related? I have done my best to point out that I believe they are-at best-a blunt instrument. But I could sure use more heads on this one.

Thank you-

Bryan Baldwin
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California Department of Justice
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