[IPAC-List] Entry-Level Firefighter Written Examination Providers

Dennis Joiner joinerda at pacbell.net
Mon Nov 14 17:39:17 EST 2016


Harry,
Darany and Associates  has as entry firefighter test with both cognitive and bio-data components which I have heard is a very good test.  Ted's contact info is:
Ted Darany Darany and Associates 1250 San Pablo Avenue Redlands, CA 92373 (909) 798-4475 - FAX: (909) 798-0306 tsdarany at earthlink.net Dennis A. Joiner 
Assessment Specialist 
Dennis A. Joiner & Associates 
4975 Daru Way, Fair Oaks, CA 95628 
Phone and Fax (916) 967-7795
Website: joinertests.com
 

    On Friday, November 11, 2016 7:43 PM, Harry Brull <harry at bcgconsultinggroup.com> wrote:
 

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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 11:38 AM
To: ipac-list at ipacweb.org
Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Appealed Items    For those who have asked for the rationale for other than give credit to "B," I would give several: 1. From a psychological and PR perspective, we know gains are treated differently than losses. Better to let everyone gain, than most people lose. 2. The people who answered "A" thought they had the correct answer. So they have not had a chance to appeal and argue "A" was the best answer; should they now get a chance to appeal since the answer key has changed? And what about the people who answered "C" or "D" and thought that was a better answer than "B" but not a better answer than "A." 3. If there is some type of litigation or other action, you have a test writer who believes the best answer is "A." 4. It could be the item was just confusing, therefore the confusion over A and B, leading to the decision to simply give everyone credit for the item. 5. As for simply deleting an item, the rationale for keeping the item but giving everyone credit would be that 1) it does not change the content validity of the exam, since the item was not deleted and 2) if you have a 100 item exam with a cutoff at 70, you have not reduced the effective number of items to say 90, in a case where you would have a number of appeals. Dennis        On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Dennis Doverspike <dennisdoverspike at gmail.com> wrote: 
You are working for a city producing the final scoring key for a test. An item has been appealed where the original best answer was "A." The test review committee considers an appeal that "B" is the best answer, and agrees that "B" is the best answer. This was not simply a typo or miscoding, the original item writer believed that A was the best answer. Do you: 1. Score A and B as correct; award one point for each. 2. Only score B as correct, counting A as being wrong. 3. Delete or throw out the item. 4. Give credit to all responses, A, B, C, and D. 5. Other Does your jurisdiction have a stated or understood practice for handling such situations? Do you have a rationale for your practice. Please feel free to elaborate. Consultants, feel free to offer your usual practice. Dennis    Dennis Doverspike, PhD., ABPP
Licensed Psychologist, #3539 (OHIO)
Independent Consultant
Professor of Psychology, University of Akron
dennisdoverspike at gmail.com

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--  Dennis Doverspike, PhD., ABPP
Licensed Psychologist, #3539 (OHIO)
Independent Consultant
Professor of Psychology, University of Akron
dennisdoverspike at gmail.com

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