[IPAC-List] Seeking information about the Suffolk County Police Exam of the 1990's

[Mike McDaniel]

I have no additional information  I tried tracking down news reports from
the late 1990s of the fraud associated with the testing process, but was
unsuccessful. I recall that one bad situation was a police officer with
access to the biodata component of the battery was giving a course on how
to complete that test. The police interns who were applying to take the
test were given that course and as hired officers were brought up on
charges for taking the coaching course.

Mike

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Joel Wiesen <
jwiesen at appliedpersonnelresearch.com> wrote:

> Harry, Mike, All,
>
> Has anyone done any post exam validation research to see how the people
> hired from this exam did on the job?
>
> Joel
>
>
> Joel P. Wiesen, Ph.D., Director
> Applied Personnel Research
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> On 12/16/17 2:22 PM, Mike McDaniel wrote:
>
>> I used to have the technical reports, but no longer do. My memory is that
>> the cut-off score for the pass/fail cognitive test was set at 1% (99%
>> passed)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Dec 13, 2017 10:53 PM, "Harry Brull" <harry at bcgconsultinggroup.com
>> <mailto:harry at bcgconsultinggroup.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Joel,
>>     I am in close contact with the principal author of the project.
>>     Before I approach her, however, can you tell me the purpose behind
>>     your request?
>>     The bottom line and alleged controversy (thank you, Linda
>>     Gottfriedson) was the non-use of cognitive testing. The rationale
>>     behind that was straightforward.
>>     Applicants were required to have a 4-year college degree.
>>     Cognitive test scores did not predict, or add to prediction, of
>>     OTJ job performance.
>>     In lay terms, if you were smart enough to earn a four-year degree,
>>     you were smart enough to be a cop - and more smarts didn't
>>     translate into better job performance.
>>
>>     Harry
>>
>>
>>     Harry Brull - Senior Partner
>>     BCG Consulting Group
>>     612.414.8998 <tel:612.414.8998>
>>     harry at bcgconsultinggroup.com <mailto:harry at bcgconsultinggroup.com>
>>
>>     www.BCGconsultinggroup.com <http://www.BCGconsultinggroup.com>
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: IPAC-List [mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org
>>     <mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org>] On Behalf Of Joel Wiesen
>>     Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 2:00 PM
>>     To: IPAC-List <IPAC-List at ipacweb.org <mailto:IPAC-List at ipacweb.org>>
>>     Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Seeking information about the Suffolk
>>     County Police Exam of the 1990's
>>
>>     Correction:
>>
>>     Dennis Doverspike suggests that it
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Dennis+Doverspike+suggests+that+it&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> was Nassau not Suffolk country
>>     in NY.
>>
>>     Thanks for the info, Dennis.
>>
>>
>>     Joel P. Wiesen, Ph.D., Director
>>     Applied Personnel Research
>>     62 Candlewood Road
>>     Scarsdale, NY 10583-6040
>>     http://www.linkedin.com/in/joelwiesen
>>     <http://www.linkedin.com/in/joelwiesen>
>>     (617) 244-8859 <tel:%28617%29%20244-8859>
>>     http://appliedpersonnelresearch.com
>>     <http://appliedpersonnelresearch.com>
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>>     On 12/13/17 2:35 PM, Joel Wiesen wrote:
>>     > Back in the 1990's, a team of eminent I/O psychologists developed an
>>     > entry-level police officer exam for Suffolk County, NY. The exam
>>     > became controversial, in part due to the choice and weighting of the
>>     > components.
>>     >
>>     > I recall attending a SIOP presentation about the exam development
>>     > process, but I cannot find any documentation for this presentation.
>>     >
>>     > I am seeking any published (or unpublished) material describing this
>>     > project.
>>     >
>>     > Thanks.
>>     >
>>     > Joel
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
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