From Sam.Frankiel at theantfarm.net Wed Sep 2 13:11:39 2009 From: Sam.Frankiel at theantfarm.net (Sam Frankiel) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:11:39 -0700 Subject: EWS and AutoDiscovery (Exchange) Message-ID: <7E424396630E1B40AD2BEF9E95048B09B147D6B5@TAF-EXCH01.THEANTFARM.NET> Anyone using EWS with Auto Discovery outside the internal LAN (remote users)? The internal AutoDiscovery settings work while inside the network but are not correct for outside and I am having a hard time nailing down what they should be outside. Anyone have any advice or pointers? Sam Frankiel The Ant Farm 110 S. Fairfax Suite 200 323 850 0700 This email may contain material that is subject to copyright or trade secret protection, confidential and/or privileged and, in all cases, provided for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, reliance or distribution by others or forwarding without express permission is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. DDB Worldwide Communications Group Inc. and its affiliates ("DDB") may monitor the use of this email system for various purposes including security management, system operations, and intellectual property compliance. DDB's email systems may not be used for the delivery of unsolicited bulk email communications. From Robert.Virzi at VerizonWireless.com Fri Sep 4 12:44:20 2009 From: Robert.Virzi at VerizonWireless.com (Virzi, Robert A) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:44:20 -0400 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? Message-ID: <20090904164530.85B0F36C69@wutare.pair.com> So all the reviews, such as this one: http://www.slashgear.com/snow-leopard-is-just-plain-cool-gartenberg-first-hands-on-2653884/ Are saying snow leopard does a really, really good job of integrating with Exchange. I have my copy but have not had the time to upgrade and do the comparison. Anyone on this list tried using mail and ical with exchange? I?ve seen reports that it works. But nothing on what it takes to move from Entourage to mail/ical. I guess calendar would be automatic from the exchange server, but I have gigs of old mail that I?d need to move. So if anyone has actually made the move, and can report on the process of switching, I think there are a lot of people interested in hearing how that went. --------------------------------------------- Bob Virzi The information contained in this message and any attachment may be proprietary, confidential, and privileged or subject to the work product doctrine and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this message and deleting it and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. From Tom at thhpc.com Fri Sep 4 13:21:22 2009 From: Tom at thhpc.com (Tom Hart) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:21:22 -0400 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: <20090904164530.85B0F36C69@wutare.pair.com> Message-ID: Bob, I set up Mail and iCal to connect to Exchange Server 2007 (Note: ES 2003 does not work with Leopard). The set up was easy and seems to be working fine. If you have old e-mails on your exchange server, then they will automatically synch. It may take time depending on the size of your Identity database. Any subfolders created in Entourage and on your server will automatically be created in Mail. If you do not run Entourage and its Rules, then you will have to create new rules in Mail. If you have old e-mails stored on your computer, you can use Entourage to create an archive as an MBOX file and then import into Mail. (In Mail go to File/Import Mailbox/Select MBOX). I am playing around with the Mail/iCal/AddressBook programs but I still prefer Entourage's integration better. Plus, I use Projects as my basic case manager and the Apple programs don't have anything similar. Of course, a preference for Entourage or Mail is like a preference for Word/Word Perfect or Safari/Firefox; everyone is different. The bottom line is that the Exchange Server integration works well, provided you have Exchange Server 2007. Tom -- Tom Hart tom at thhpc.com > From: "Virzi, Robert A" > Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:44:20 -0400 > To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? > > So all the reviews, such as this one: > > http://www.slashgear.com/snow-leopard-is-just-plain-cool-gartenberg-first-hand > s-on-2653884/ > > Are saying snow leopard does a really, really good job of integrating with > Exchange. I have my copy but have not had the time to upgrade and do the > comparison. Anyone on this list tried using mail and ical with exchange? > I?ve seen reports that it works. But nothing on what it takes to move from > Entourage to mail/ical. I guess calendar would be automatic from the exchange > server, but I have gigs of old mail that I?d need to move. > > So if anyone has actually made the move, and can report on the process of > switching, I think there are a lot of people interested in hearing how that > went. > > --------------------------------------------- > Bob Virzi > > > > > > > The information contained in this message and any attachment may be > proprietary, confidential, and privileged or subject to the work > product doctrine and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader > of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or > agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, please notify me > immediately by replying to this message and deleting it and all > copies and backups thereof. Thank you. > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org?subject=unsubscribe From barry at barryw.net Fri Sep 4 15:04:05 2009 From: barry at barryw.net (Barry Wainwright) Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:04:05 +0100 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: <20090904164530.85B0F36C69@wutare.pair.com> References: <20090904164530.85B0F36C69@wutare.pair.com> Message-ID: It does work very well - in parts. Two major issues I have encountered: I cannot connect to the server when I am outside the local network. In Entourage, I just put in the name of the server that OWA is accessed from and Entourage works. I can't get mail to connect this way at all, even though it has separate entries for internal and external servers in the accounts settings. There is no support for public folders. For me, this alone would be the killer preventing me from using it instead fo Entourage. Hopefully this will be added in a future update. -- Barry On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Virzi, Robert A wrote: > So all the reviews, such as this one: > > http://www.slashgear.com/snow-leopard-is-just-plain-cool-gartenberg-first-hands-on-2653884/ > > Are saying snow leopard does a really, really good job of > integrating with Exchange. I have my copy but have not had the time > to upgrade and do the comparison. Anyone on this list tried using > mail and ical with exchange? I?ve seen reports that it works. But > nothing on what it takes to move from Entourage to mail/ical. I > guess calendar would be automatic from the exchange server, but I > have gigs of old mail that I?d need to move. > > So if anyone has actually made the move, and can report on the > process of switching, I think there are a lot of people interested > in hearing how that went. > > --------------------------------------------- > Bob Virzi > > > > > > > The information contained in this message and any attachment may be > proprietary, confidential, and privileged or subject to the work > product doctrine and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader > of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or > agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. > If you have received this communication in error, please notify me > immediately by replying to this message and deleting it and all > copies and backups thereof. Thank you. > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org? > subject=unsubscribe From barry at barryw.net Sat Sep 5 03:18:34 2009 From: barry at barryw.net (Barry Wainwright) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 08:18:34 +0100 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: References: <20090904164530.85B0F36C69@wutare.pair.com> Message-ID: <5251EC4B-26E2-400B-B36B-2C3B437359CA@barryw.net> A third missing feature - no access to the 'Out of Office' functions. You have to drop into OWA to adjust those. -- Barry On 4 Sep 2009, at 20:04, Barry Wainwright wrote: > It does work very well - in parts. > > Two major issues I have encountered: > > I cannot connect to the server when I am outside the local network. > In Entourage, I just put in the name of the server that OWA is > accessed from and Entourage works. I can't get mail to connect this > way at all, even though it has separate entries for internal and > external servers in the accounts settings. > > There is no support for public folders. For me, this alone would be > the killer preventing me from using it instead fo Entourage. > Hopefully this will be added in a future update. > > > -- > Barry > > On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:44, Virzi, Robert A wrote: > >> So all the reviews, such as this one: >> >> http://www.slashgear.com/snow-leopard-is-just-plain-cool-gartenberg-first-hands-on-2653884/ >> >> Are saying snow leopard does a really, really good job of >> integrating with Exchange. I have my copy but have not had the >> time to upgrade and do the comparison. Anyone on this list tried >> using mail and ical with exchange? I?ve seen reports that it >> works. But nothing on what it takes to move from Entourage to mail/ >> ical. I guess calendar would be automatic from the exchange >> server, but I have gigs of old mail that I?d need to move. >> >> So if anyone has actually made the move, and can report on the >> process of switching, I think there are a lot of people interested >> in hearing how that went. >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> Bob Virzi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The information contained in this message and any attachment may be >> proprietary, confidential, and privileged or subject to the work >> product doctrine and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader >> of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or >> agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended >> recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, >> distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. >> If you have received this communication in error, please notify me >> immediately by replying to this message and deleting it and all >> copies and backups thereof. Thank you. >> >> -- >> YouTalk mailing list >> List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org >> List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html >> List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org >> To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org? >> subject=unsubscribe > > > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org? > subject=unsubscribe From Tom at thhpc.com Sat Sep 5 09:42:30 2009 From: Tom at thhpc.com (Tom Hart) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 09:42:30 -0400 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: <5251EC4B-26E2-400B-B36B-2C3B437359CA@barryw.net> Message-ID: Remember you are using Apple's Mail, not Outlook or Entourage. You can only use whatever functions Mail has. Out of Office is not available in Mail unless you create a Rule to send an Automatic Message. Go to Help and search "Out of Office." -- Tom Hart tom at thhpc.com > From: Barry Wainwright > Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 03:18:34 -0400 > To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Subject: Re: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? > > A third missing feature - no access to the 'Out of Office' functions. > You have to drop into OWA to adjust those. > > -- > Barry From barry at barryw.net Sat Sep 5 10:09:41 2009 From: barry at barryw.net (Barry Wainwright) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:09:41 +0100 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry, but you are mistaken. 'Out of Office' is handled (and very well) at the Exchange Server level. It is true that Entourage has no 'built in' Out of Office function for POP or IMAP accounts, and you have to use mail rules as you describe. However, both Outlook and Entourage can access the OOF? server settings. The Exchange support in Mail cannot - this is what I was commenting on. -- Barry wainwright Microsoft MVP ? Ever wondered why an 'Out Of Office' function is called an OOF? Well, 'OOF' was a command used in the days of Microsoft?s Xenix mail system, which set a user as ?Out of Facility? - ie Out of the Office. The usage of the term ?OOF? just stuck, even when the terminology changed to 'Out of Office'. On 5 Sep 2009, at 14:42, Tom Hart wrote: > Remember you are using Apple's Mail, not Outlook or Entourage. You > can only > use whatever functions Mail has. Out of Office is not available in > Mail > unless you create a Rule to send an Automatic Message. Go to Help > and search > "Out of Office." > -- > Tom Hart > tom at thhpc.com > > >> From: Barry Wainwright >> Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage >> >> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 03:18:34 -0400 >> To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage >> >> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? >> >> A third missing feature - no access to the 'Out of Office' functions. >> You have to drop into OWA to adjust those. >> >> -- >> Barry > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org? > subject=unsubscribe From Tom at thhpc.com Sat Sep 5 10:15:45 2009 From: Tom at thhpc.com (Tom Hart) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:15:45 -0400 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: We are probably saying the same thing. What I was commenting on was the fact that Apple added ActiveSynch functionality to Mail in SL so Mail can connect to ES 2007; however, none of Mail's front-end features were changed. Mail never had OOF before and nothing was changed to allow Mail to access the OOF features now. The only thing about Mail that was changed was the ability to connect to ES 2007. -- Tom Hart tom at thhpc.com > From: Barry Wainwright > Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:09:41 -0400 > To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Subject: Re: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? > > Sorry, but you are mistaken. > > 'Out of Office' is handled (and very well) at the Exchange Server > level. It is true that Entourage has no 'built in' Out of Office > function for POP or IMAP accounts, and you have to use mail rules as > you describe. However, both Outlook and Entourage can access the OOF? > server settings. The Exchange support in Mail cannot - this is what I > was commenting on. > -- > Barry wainwright > Microsoft MVP > > > > ? Ever wondered why an 'Out Of Office' function is called an OOF? > Well, 'OOF' was a command used in the days of Microsoft?s Xenix mail > system, which set a user as ?Out of Facility? - ie Out of the Office. > The usage of the term ?OOF? just stuck, even when the terminology > changed to 'Out of Office'. > > On 5 Sep 2009, at 14:42, Tom Hart wrote: > >> Remember you are using Apple's Mail, not Outlook or Entourage. You >> can only >> use whatever functions Mail has. Out of Office is not available in >> Mail >> unless you create a Rule to send an Automatic Message. Go to Help >> and search >> "Out of Office." >> -- >> Tom Hart >> tom at thhpc.com >> >> >>> From: Barry Wainwright >>> Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage >>> >>> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 03:18:34 -0400 >>> To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage >>> >>> Subject: Re: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? >>> >>> A third missing feature - no access to the 'Out of Office' functions. >>> You have to drop into OWA to adjust those. >>> >>> -- >>> Barry >> >> -- >> YouTalk mailing list >> List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org >> List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html >> List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org >> To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org? >> subject=unsubscribe > > > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org?subject=unsubscribe From mecklists at comcast.net Sat Sep 5 11:10:31 2009 From: mecklists at comcast.net (William Smith) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:10:31 -0500 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Barry Wainright > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:04:05 +0100 > > There is no support for public folders. For me, this alone would be > the killer preventing me from using it instead fo Entourage. Hopefully > this will be added in a future update. If I were Apple then I'd not bother to implement public folder support. Why bother when it is practically end-of-lifed in Exchange Server 2007? While it hasn't been killed in Exchange Server 2010, development has pretty much ceased and it's getting harder to implement. -- bill Entourage Help Page Entourage Help Blog Twitter: follow From mecklists at comcast.net Sat Sep 5 11:10:38 2009 From: mecklists at comcast.net (William Smith) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 10:10:38 -0500 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Tom Hart > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:15:45 -0400 > > We are probably saying the same thing. > > What I was commenting on was the fact that Apple added ActiveSynch > functionality to Mail in SL so Mail can connect to ES 2007; however, none of > Mail's front-end features were changed. Mail never had OOF before and > nothing was changed to allow Mail to access the OOF features now. The only > thing about Mail that was changed was the ability to connect to ES 2007. Added ActiveSync functionality to Mail? No. ActiveSync is a push technology for mobile devices such as the iPhone. Apple is using the Exchange Web Services (EWS) protocol just like the Entourage for EWS mail client. The opportunity for feature parity is really ripe with this because both Entourage and Mail can literally access the same functions with Exchange Server. The fact that Entourage accesses Exchange's out-of-office feature and Mail doesn't is strictly a design decision by the developers. They are choosing what they want their users to be able to do. Mail will probably incorporate more and more Exchange features much like Entourage did when it was gaining Exchange features during Entourage 2004 and Entourage 2008 development. Not everything can be included the first time and Apple may decide that it wants to maintain a clean and simple feature set compared to Entourage's more complex implementation. -- bill Entourage Help Page Entourage Help Blog Twitter: follow From barry at barryw.net Sat Sep 5 17:25:09 2009 From: barry at barryw.net (Barry Wainwright) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:25:09 +0100 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D36B444-A9E6-4088-992D-6492EBA6DF83@barryw.net> On 5 Sep 2009, at 16:10, William Smith wrote: >> From: Barry Wainright >> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:04:05 +0100 >> >> There is no support for public folders. For me, this alone would be >> the killer preventing me from using it instead fo Entourage. >> Hopefully >> this will be added in a future update. > > If I were Apple then I'd not bother to implement public folder > support. Why > bother when it is practically end-of-lifed in Exchange Server 2007? > While it > hasn't been killed in Exchange Server 2010, development has pretty > much > ceased and it's getting harder to implement. > End of Life? No, not really. It is 'deprecated' and sysads are recommended to use Sharepoint as an alternative. For many sysads that's rather like telling them to use a Boeing 888 to get to work as an alternative to the local bus. Sharepoint has a huge Hardware, financial and maintenance overhead that is totally unnecessary for the vast majority of uses of Public Folders. No way am I going to install a Sharepoint server to replace my public folders. No, Public Folders will be around for many years yet, and for a lot (probably the majority) of exchange installations they are used, and heavily used at that. -- Barry wainwright Microsoft MVP From Robert.Virzi at VerizonWireless.com Tue Sep 8 09:54:27 2009 From: Robert.Virzi at VerizonWireless.com (Virzi, Robert A) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:54:27 -0400 Subject: Snow Leopard - Exchange reports? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090908135632.96EBE36CFE@wutare.pair.com> Well, you learn something new every day. I didn't know Entourage had access to Exchange's OOF function. In fact, I had been using Exchange Web access to set OOF because I couldn't find it in Entourage. Based on your comments, I went and looked AGAIN, and was very, very surprised to find it in tools. Working perfectly, I might add, but pretty much non-existent to me until this thread. Thanks for the tip. On 9/5/09 10:09 AM, "Barry Wainwright" wrote: > Sorry, but you are mistaken. > > 'Out of Office' is handled (and very well) at the Exchange Server > level. It is true that Entourage has no 'built in' Out of Office > function for POP or IMAP accounts, and you have to use mail rules as > you describe. However, both Outlook and Entourage can access the OOF? > server settings. The Exchange support in Mail cannot - this is what I > was commenting on. --------------------------------------------- Bob Virzi The information contained in this message and any attachment may be proprietary, confidential, and privileged or subject to the work product doctrine and thus protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify me immediately by replying to this message and deleting it and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. From dianeross at mvps.org Tue Sep 8 17:20:44 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:20:44 -0700 Subject: Changes in Snow Leopard and Automator workflows Message-ID: I have several Automator workflow tutorials posted on the Entourage Help Blog. Snow Leopard made several changes in Automator and the directions no longer work. If you have the older workflows and upgraded to Snow Leopard, they will still work. I'll get updates posted soon. -- Diane From dianeross at mvps.org Tue Sep 8 17:26:39 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:26:39 -0700 Subject: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? Message-ID: Let's start a thread for user feedback on using Entourage with Snow Leopard. Post both good and bad results. Ok to talk about general Snow Leopard experiences too. Overall, my upgrade to Snow Leopard has been pretty uneventful. I've had a few bumps but that's to be expected with a new version. I've had Microsoft Entourage start throwing up errors like your rules file is corrupted, or your sig file is corrupted. When I tried quitting I found other applications were hung or hard to quit. I had to power down, and on restart all errors went away. Nothing was wrong with my database. I did delete the older fonts in the Microsoft fonts folder after Apple installed new ones. They are easy to find since they show as duplicates in Font Book. I've seen reports where Entourage downloaded everything on the server again, so perhaps a warning to either move your older mail out of the Inbox on the server using your web browser or download all mail from server before updating to Snow Leopard is advised. (When I did upgrade shortly before installing Snow Leopard to EWS, Entourage downloaded all mail left on server too.) If you are having problems, see Troubleshooting Office for Mac with Snow Leopard -- Diane From julianv at mindspring.com Tue Sep 8 18:08:20 2009 From: julianv at mindspring.com (Julian Vrieslander) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:08:20 -0700 Subject: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/8/09 2:26 PM, "Diane Ross" wrote: > Let's start a thread for user feedback on using Entourage with Snow Leopard. > Post both good and bad results. Ok to talk about general Snow Leopard > experiences too. ... > I did delete the older fonts in the Microsoft fonts folder after Apple > installed new ones. They are easy to find since they show as duplicates in > Font Book. Did you actually delete these fonts from /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/ or did you disable them in Font Book? I have been a bit wary of deleting anything associated with Office 2008, since the MS update installers often go haywire if they find expected files missing or moved. For what it's worth, I have not had any problems running Entourage 2008 in Snow Leopard. But this install was done on a MacBook Pro that gets light use. -- Julian Vrieslander From LWilliams at his.com Tue Sep 8 18:15:07 2009 From: LWilliams at his.com (Lindsley Williams) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:15:07 -0400 Subject: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had major upsets with fixed width fonts associated with both Safari and Sky0e (likely user selected, there "courier"; so beware of loose nut behind wheel here). Both selections were some/another pre-update "courier" font. Changed to one of the options suggested for fixed width; problem (with fonts) went away. Loose nut (another story). -- Lindsley Williams / LWilliams at his.com > From: Julian Vrieslander > Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:08:20 -0700 > To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Conversation: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? > Subject: Re: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? > > On 9/8/09 2:26 PM, "Diane Ross" wrote: > >> Let's start a thread for user feedback on using Entourage with Snow Leopard. >> Post both good and bad results. Ok to talk about general Snow Leopard >> experiences too. > > .... > >> I did delete the older fonts in the Microsoft fonts folder after Apple >> installed new ones. They are easy to find since they show as duplicates in >> Font Book. > > Did you actually delete these fonts from > > /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/ > > or did you disable them in Font Book? > > I have been a bit wary of deleting anything associated with Office 2008, > since the MS update installers often go haywire if they find expected files > missing or moved. > > For what it's worth, I have not had any problems running Entourage 2008 in > Snow Leopard. But this install was done on a MacBook Pro that gets light > use. > > -- > Julian Vrieslander > > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org?subject=unsubscribe From dianeross at mvps.org Tue Sep 8 22:03:07 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:03:07 -0700 Subject: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/8/09 3:08 PM, "Julian Vrieslander" wrote: > Did you actually delete these fonts from > > /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/ > > or did you disable them in Font Book? I deleted them. I saw reports on Apple discussions that some users that disabled found them enabled later. I figured, it they are old, I'll delete. > I have been a bit wary of deleting anything associated with Office 2008, > since the MS update installers often go haywire if they find expected files > missing or moved. I don't think this is one of the files that the installer checks, but it's a good point. I'll ask. -- Diane From dianeross at mvps.org Tue Sep 8 22:26:42 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 19:26:42 -0700 Subject: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/8/09 7:03 PM, "Diane Ross" wrote: > I don't think this is one of the files that the installer checks, but it's a > good point. I'll ask. How's this for a quick answer? ===== we don't look at the fonts to verify if we should install a particular update. ==== -- Diane From rmkriss at att.net Tue Sep 8 22:27:24 2009 From: rmkriss at att.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 21:27:24 -0500 Subject: Entourage and Snow Leopard - how did your upgrade go? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/8/09 9:03 PM, "Diane Ross" wrote: > On 9/8/09 3:08 PM, "Julian Vrieslander" wrote: > >> Did you actually delete these fonts from >> >> /Library/Fonts/Microsoft/ >> >> or did you disable them in Font Book? > > I deleted them. I saw reports on Apple discussions that some users that > disabled found them enabled later. I figured, it they are old, I'll delete. > >> I have been a bit wary of deleting anything associated with Office 2008, >> since the MS update installers often go haywire if they find expected files >> missing or moved. > > I don't think this is one of the files that the installer checks, but it's a > good point. I'll ask. On my first install of 10.6 I noticed the dupes in the Font Book. It flags dupes with yellow-icon. Check it and you can spot the dupes. Diane's suggestion to just delete them from the Microsoft folder sounds like a better (easier) approach. I did it the hard way by using the Font Book's File/Resolve Duplicates on each one. This resolves (turns the dupes inactive and dimmed) but does not remove the font. I then had to go back and use the right-click to delete the dimmed fonts. Diane's solution is better. Dick From dianeross at mvps.org Wed Sep 9 20:30:58 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:30:58 -0700 Subject: Feedback requested on Office 2008 install on Snow Leopard Message-ID: Vote in our latest poll to show your experience with Office and Snow Leopard: Poll: Install MS Office 2008 on Snow Leopard (The Entourage Help Blog) -- Diane From Max.Manshel at Verizon.net Thu Sep 10 16:14:30 2009 From: Max.Manshel at Verizon.net (Max Manshel) Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:14:30 -0400 Subject: Feedback requested on Office 2008 install on Snow Leopard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Can not vote Word (12.2.1) installed before snow leopard, both installed with our a problem. BUT no office programs print cups error. Other programs print on both HP & Brother printers On Wed/9/9/09 20:30 58, "Diane Ross" saith : > Vote in our latest poll to show your experience with Office and Snow > Leopard: > > Poll: Install MS Office 2008 on Snow Leopard (The Entourage Help Blog) > leopard.html> > > -- > Diane -- ========================================================== Where people fear the government, you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people, you have liberty. Thomas Jefferson ========================================================== Law Office of Max Manshel 34 Collamore Terrace West Orange, N.J. 07052-3919 [973] 243-2121 From rmkriss at att.net Fri Sep 11 15:23:56 2009 From: rmkriss at att.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:23:56 -0500 Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary Message-ID: As part of my upgrade to Snow Leopard I did a clean install and then reinstalled Office 2008 from the CD. Office 2008, including Entourage is working great. The Custom Dictionary in my Microsoft Users Data seems to be a new version rather that the one with all of my saves. Where are the user special words filed? From lists at cortig.net Fri Sep 11 15:25:22 2009 From: lists at cortig.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Corentin_Cras-M=E9neur?=) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:25:22 -0400 Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <028D1BCB-33A0-4AAE-AC7F-D42E2C90E0DA@cortig.net> On 11 Sep 2009, at 15:23, Richard Kriss wrote: > Where are the user special words filed? Well they could be anywhere. You can specify in the Word preferences where you want them to live? Corentin From roger at rogercohen.com Fri Sep 11 15:34:15 2009 From: roger at rogercohen.com (Roger S. Cohen) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:34:15 -0400 Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Richard Kriss wrote on 9/11/09 3:23 PM: > As part of my upgrade to Snow Leopard I did a clean install and then > reinstalled Office 2008 from the CD. Office 2008, including Entourage > is working great. > > The Custom Dictionary in my Microsoft Users Data seems to be a new > version rather that the one with all of my saves. > > Where are the user special words filed? In Office 2004, Custom Dictionary is here: /Users/Your_Account_Name/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Custom Dictionary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Roger S. Cohen, President, Cohen International roger at rogercohen.com http://www.rogercohen.com Voice: +1 (845) 358-8936 Fax: +1 (845) 358-8937 From rmkriss at att.net Fri Sep 11 15:50:03 2009 From: rmkriss at att.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:50:03 -0500 Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On FriSep11/ 2:34 PM, "Roger S. Cohen" wrote: >> Where are the user special words filed? > > > In Office 2004, Custom Dictionary is here: > > > /Users/Your_Account_Name/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Custom Dictionary Very interesting....... I do not have a Microsoft folder in my users/Library/Prefernces folder. Also the last recorded change to my Custom Dictionary was 13-January-2009. I need to do some studying to figure out what happend From lee2001 at earthlink.net Fri Sep 11 16:47:43 2009 From: lee2001 at earthlink.net (Lee2001) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:47:43 -0700 Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When you did a clean install of Office 2008, did you save your prior identity dbase? My Entourage crashes incessantly even after rebuilding the dbase. Hesitating upgrading to Snow because current Entourage dbase is not stable. > From: Richard Kriss > Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:23:56 -0500 > To: YouTalk > Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary > > As part of my upgrade to Snow Leopard I did a clean install and then > reinstalled Office 2008 from the CD. Office 2008, including Entourage > is working great. > > The Custom Dictionary in my Microsoft Users Data seems to be a new > version rather that the one with all of my saves. > > Where are the user special words filed? > -- From rmkriss at att.net Fri Sep 11 17:59:07 2009 From: rmkriss at att.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:59:07 -0500 Subject: Office 2008 and OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Success Story In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On FriSep11/ 3:47 PM, "Lee2001" wrote: > When you did a clean install of Office 2008, did you save your prior > identity dbase? My Entourage crashes incessantly even after rebuilding the > dbase. Hesitating upgrading to Snow because current Entourage dbase is not > stable. The short response is Yes and I used the new SL compatible SuperDuper. The longer version is I was having all kinds of issues with my old 10.5.8 with Office 2008 and some other applications. I installed Snow Leopard and had no real issues with Office 2008 but the Time Machine was hosed and it would give me the Black Screen of Death (the dark screen telling you to push the power button on the back - in multiple languages). This is a the sign of a Kernal Panic. After talking to AppleCare, it was decided I needed to erase and install. No problem erasing the Macintosh HD but then I ran into major problems when I tied to install 10.6 on the clean drive. It said Snow Leopard could not be installed on this Mac. My guess (that was wrong) was SL could not detect a Leopard on the hard drive. I got the same thing with Leopard and even with my Tiger. At this point I carried the Intel 2.4 GHz iMac to the Apple Store for help. The Apple guy was trying to install 10.6 from his master and he got the same Black Screen of Death. He indicated he has seen that before and it can be caused by memory. He pulled the 2 GB stick and left the one Apple 1 GB and installed Snow Leopard and everything was working perfect. We even attached my external hard drive the Time Machine started doing its thing. All (((repeat all ))) of my issues were probably due to a 3rd party 2 GB DDR2 SDRAM. I still have never found a reliable memory tester. They all said my RAM was good. I left the Apple Store and installed my older other 1 GB stick and everything has been working perfect. It was just a major PITA to reinstall everything..... and I mean everything. I contacted the MFG of the 3rd party stick (provided by a friend) and discovered the part number was not for an Apple iMac. I have the correct part number on order to replace one of the 1 GB DDR2 SDRAMs. Sorry about the long winded shaggy-dog story. As part of the rebuilding of Humpy-Dumpty I installed Office 2008 from the disc. Microsoft makes this very hard and time consuming. My disc installed 12.0 and I had to do each update one at a time. What a pain. Has MS every heard of a Combo? I copied my Office 2008 Identities from a SuperDuper 10.5.8 backup and the first time I ran Entourage I had to rebuilt the database. I also had issues registration but this was resolved by a Mactiopia tip titled "Remove and reenter the Office 2008 product key" at The new install worked great and I have had no issues other than the missing Custom Dictionary. The dictionary problem is my User/Library/Preferences folder on the SuperDuper drive does not contain a Microsoft folder. The new Office 2008 installer added a one so I will just start over with a clear user dictionary. This is no big deal. I am now very pleased with Snow Leopard and Office 2008 has never worked better. Something tells me I had some issues in the old 10.5.8 setup. It is hard to start over but now that it is done it was worth the time and effort. Like the old saying says .... I've been there, had fun and don't want to do it again! Thanks for reading this long shaggy dog success story! > > >> From: Richard Kriss >> Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage >> >> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:23:56 -0500 >> To: YouTalk >> Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary >> >> As part of my upgrade to Snow Leopard I did a clean install and then >> reinstalled Office 2008 from the CD. Office 2008, including Entourage >> is working great. >> >> The Custom Dictionary in my Microsoft Users Data seems to be a new >> version rather that the one with all of my saves. >> >> Where are the user special words filed? >> -- From dianeross at mvps.org Fri Sep 11 19:33:44 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:33:44 -0700 Subject: Office 2008 and OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Success Story In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/11/09 2:59 PM, "Richard Kriss" wrote: > As part of the > rebuilding of Humpy-Dumpty I installed Office 2008 from the disc. > Microsoft makes this very hard and time consuming. My disc > installed 12.0 and I had to do each update one at a time. What > a pain. Has MS every heard of a Combo? Yup and they have been great rolling out combos. 12.1.0 <-combo 12.2.0 <-combo 12.2.1 small fix for xml files If you ever have to re-install, you can zip the 12.1.0 and use it as the base in the future or use the 12.2.0 as a base for installs. -- Diane From dianeross at mvps.org Fri Sep 11 19:38:50 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:38:50 -0700 Subject: Location of Office 2008 user dictionary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/11/09 1:47 PM, "Lee2001" wrote: > When you did a clean install of Office 2008, did you save your prior > identity dbase? My Entourage crashes incessantly even after rebuilding the > dbase. Hesitating upgrading to Snow because current Entourage dbase is not > stable. Try exporting your data as Entourage archive (.rge) file under File > Export. If it fails then you have database corruption that was not cleared up with the rebuild. Select each item and export only one item at a time as .rge file. Most likely all items but messages will export as .rge. Next try exporting your messages as MBOX files using this script. It will fail on the folder with corruption. Divide the folder and drag to desktop. Keep splitting the folder until you find the corruption. Export folders as MBOX files (includes subfolders) Once you get all your data out, you can create a new Identity and import your data. Your new Identity should be stable. Depending on the size and complexity of your corruption this can be quite time consuming. -- Diane From rmkriss at att.net Fri Sep 11 20:14:49 2009 From: rmkriss at att.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:14:49 -0500 Subject: Office 2008 and OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Success Story In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On FriSep11/ 6:33 PM, "Diane Ross" wrote: > On 9/11/09 2:59 PM, "Richard Kriss" wrote: > >> As part of the >> rebuilding of Humpy-Dumpty I installed Office 2008 from the disc. >> Microsoft makes this very hard and time consuming. My disc >> installed 12.0 and I had to do each update one at a time. What >> a pain. Has MS every heard of a Combo? > > Yup and they have been great rolling out combos. > > 12.1.0 <-combo > 12.2.0 <-combo > 12.2.1 small fix for xml files > > If you ever have to re-install, you can zip the 12.1.0 and use it as the > base in the future or use the 12.2.0 as a base for installs. The only one I have found and been able to download is Office2008-1221UpdateEN.dmg and it will not run on the 12.0 from the install disc. Once installed you have to use the updater to get to 12.2.1, then it calls for the updater to install 12.2.0. Please provide a URL where I can download the 12.2.1 combo. From gwallace at mac.com Fri Sep 11 21:59:07 2009 From: gwallace at mac.com (Geoff WALLACE) Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:59:07 +1000 Subject: Office 2008 and OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Success Story In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello Richard, All the updates you need are on this page. -- Do you own or use an Apple Macintosh Computer? If so at some time you will need the macfixer Mob: 0412 056 033 Ph: 61 3 9893 1677 Geoff WALLACE > From: Richard Kriss > Reply-To: Ent YouTalk mailing List list > Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:14:49 -0500 > To: Ent YouTalk mailing List list > Subject: Re: Office 2008 and OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Success Story >> If you ever have to re-install, you can zip the 12.1.0 and use it as the >> base in the future or use the 12.2.0 as a base for installs. > > > The only one I have found and been able to download is > > Office2008-1221UpdateEN.dmg > > and it will not run on the 12.0 from the install disc. Once installed you > have to use the updater to get to 12.2.1, then it calls for the updater > to install 12.2.0. > > Please provide a URL where I can download the 12.2.1 combo. From dianeross at mvps.org Fri Sep 11 22:54:20 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:54:20 -0700 Subject: Office 2008 and OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard Success Story In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/11/09 5:14 PM, "Richard Kriss" wrote: > The only one I have found and been able to download is > > Office2008-1221UpdateEN.dmg > > and it will not run on the 12.0 from the install disc. Once installed you > have to use the updater to get to 12.2.1, then it calls for the updater > to install 12.2.0. Wrong order: Original DVDs of Office come with the installed version 12.0.0. Install 12.1.0 SP1 Install 12.2.0 SP2 Install 12.2.1 Current shipping DVDs will install 12.1.0 (SP1). Install 12.2.0 SP Install 12.2.1 >Please provide a URL where I can download the 12.2.1 combo. I posted links to each individual updaters in this article. Troubleshooting Office for Mac with Snow Leopard -- Diane From cabbagebnb at peak.org Sun Sep 13 18:04:03 2009 From: cabbagebnb at peak.org (Douglas Christopherson) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:04:03 -0700 Subject: Real short Mail message headers Message-ID: Mail 2.1.3, OS X 10.4.11 How does one see only real short Mail message headers? From Reply to Date To Subject Even in Default Header Mail messages (Shift+Command+H) have all this... Return-Path: Received: Received: Received: -Sieve: X-Asg-Debug-Id: X-Barracuda-Url: X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: Received-Spf: pass (barracuda2.peak.org: References: X-Asg-Orig-Subj: Message-Id: Mime-Version: Content-Type: X-Mailer: Thread-Index: In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: X-Barracuda-Connect: X-Barracuda-Start-Time: X-Barracuda-Virus-Scanned: X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: All this does not show up in Entourage 2004 for Mac Thanks Chris Christopherson PEGGY?S ALASKAN CABBAGE PATCH B&B A Touch of Old Alaska in Modern Oregon 194 S Second St, Lebanon, OR 97355 B&B 541.258.1774--Home 541.451.4910 http://www.Cabbage-Patch-B-and-B.com From mecklists at comcast.net Sun Sep 13 18:21:09 2009 From: mecklists at comcast.net (William Smith) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:21:09 -0500 Subject: Real short Mail message headers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Douglas Christopherson > Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:04:03 -0700 > > All this does not show up in Entourage 2004 for Mac You should find message headers in Entourage 2004 by selecting View menu --> Internet Headers. Hope this helps! -- bill Entourage Help Page Entourage Help Blog YouTalk Twitter: follow From dianeross at mvps.org Sun Sep 13 19:15:06 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:15:06 -0700 Subject: Real short Mail message headers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/13/09 3:04 PM, "Douglas Christopherson" wrote: > How does one see only real short Mail message headers? Unless there is a script, it's not an option in Entourage. Sorry. -- Diane From gvon.1 at cox.net Tue Sep 15 12:06:47 2009 From: gvon.1 at cox.net (George) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:06:47 -0700 Subject: Date bug Message-ID: I have 10.6.1 on an iMac. The dates in Quicken and Entourage listings show: ddtmmtyy or dtmmtyy They should be mm/dd/yy or m/d/yy. Are others seeing the same thing? George From rmkriss at att.net Tue Sep 15 12:20:47 2009 From: rmkriss at att.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:20:47 -0500 Subject: Date bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have noticed the time is wrong. I just received new message that is time stamped as 15:10 AM in Entourage 12.2.1 and OS X 10.6.1. My Time Machine backup times are also hosed so I think this must be a bug in the Snow Leopard 10.6.1 update Anyone know how to fix this problem? On 9/15/09 Sep 15:06 AM, "George" wrote: > I have 10.6.1 on an iMac. The dates in Quicken and Entourage listings show: > ddtmmtyy or dtmmtyy > They should be mm/dd/yy or m/d/yy. > Are others seeing the same thing? > George > > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org?subject=unsubscribe From gvon.1 at cox.net Tue Sep 15 12:51:19 2009 From: gvon.1 at cox.net (George) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:51:19 -0700 Subject: Date bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 15t09t09 9:20 AM, "Richard Kriss" wrote: > I have noticed the time is wrong. I just received new message that > is time stamped as 15:10 AM in Entourage 12.2.1 and OS X 10.6.1. > > My Time Machine backup times are also hosed so I think this must > be a bug in the Snow Leopard 10.6.1 update If I remember correctly I noticed the date problem in Quicken 2006 with just 10.6 George From dianeross at mvps.org Tue Sep 15 14:32:41 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:32:41 -0700 Subject: Date bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm not seeing that on 10.6.1. Did you check to see what's selected in System Preferences > Date & Time...is 24 hr clock selected? Next you might check in System Preferences: Language & Text > Formats. You might need to click on the customize tab. Dick can you send me a screenshot showing this if this doesn't fix. -- Diane On 9/15/09 9:20 AM, "Richard Kriss" wrote: > I have noticed the time is wrong. I just received new message that > is time stamped as 15:10 AM in Entourage 12.2.1 and OS X 10.6.1. > > My Time Machine backup times are also hosed so I think this must > be a bug in the Snow Leopard 10.6.1 update > > Anyone know how to fix this problem? > > > On 9/15/09 Sep 15:06 AM, "George" wrote: > >> I have 10.6.1 on an iMac. The dates in Quicken and Entourage listings show: >> ddtmmtyy or dtmmtyy >> They should be mm/dd/yy or m/d/yy. >> Are others seeing the same thing? >> George >> >> >> -- >> YouTalk mailing list >> List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org >> List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html >> List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org >> To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org?subject=unsubscribe From Max.Manshel at Verizon.net Tue Sep 22 11:25:11 2009 From: Max.Manshel at Verizon.net (Max Manshel) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:25:11 -0400 Subject: Date bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have a continuing problem with dates, happened before update to OS 10.6 And Ent. 12.2.1 Enter date 08/20/1999 and it changes to Tue, Tue, Dec, 27, 2039 Enter date 10/20/1969 and it changes to Sat, Sat, Oct, 12, 2030 Same problem with reminder dates Is there a library to be removed to fix this? On Tue/9/15/09 14:32 41, "Diane Ross" saith : > I'm not seeing that on 10.6.1. Did you check to see what's selected in > System Preferences > -- We are rapidly entering the age of no privacy, where everyone is open to surveillance at all times; where there are no secrets from government. -- William O. Douglas Justice, United States Supreme Court (dissenting opinion in Osborn v. United States, 1966) Max Manshel From dianeross at mvps.org Tue Sep 22 13:40:01 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:40:01 -0700 Subject: Date bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/22/09 8:25 AM, "Max Manshel" wrote: > Enter date 08/20/1999 and it changes to Tue, Tue, Dec, 27, 2039 > > Enter date 10/20/1969 and it changes to Sat, Sat, Oct, 12, 2030 Have you ever used a time application to show date in Menu bar? Most likely you have day entered twice. A few cats back I used to know how to do this for the system, but they have taken that ability away. I use iStat Menus to show time in my Menu bar. You can edit it, to show exactly what we used to be able to do. I'll send you a screenshot off list to show you the options. You can then turn off the system's date & time and use iStat. -- Diane From jamesrob at sonic.net Sun Sep 27 19:18:15 2009 From: jamesrob at sonic.net (Jim Robertson) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:18:15 -0700 Subject: Deleting an incorrect e-mail address from the address book Message-ID: Somehow, an e-mail listserv to which I subscribe (the Java-dev digest) has acquired an attachment to a clothing merchant's email address. So, every time the Java-dev digest arrives, Entourage tells me it comes from . The internet headers are correct. I've deleted this address from my Entourage addressbook a few times, but each time a new Java-dev digest arrives, the incorrect return address reappears. How do I exorcize this address permanently? Thanks so much, Jim Robertson -- From mecklists at comcast.net Sun Sep 27 20:04:44 2009 From: mecklists at comcast.net (William Smith) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:04:44 -0500 Subject: Deleting an incorrect e-mail address from the address book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Jim Robertson > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:18:15 -0700 > > Somehow, an e-mail listserv to which I subscribe (the Java-dev digest) has > acquired an attachment to a clothing merchant's email address. So, every > time the Java-dev digest arrives, Entourage tells me it comes from > . > > The internet headers are correct. I've deleted this address from my > Entourage addressbook a few times, but each time a new Java-dev digest > arrives, the incorrect return address reappears. > > How do I exorcize this address permanently? This sounds like one of the new features in Entourage 2008. Have a look at my blog post on this subject: "This bug is really a new feature in SP1" or Hope this helps! -- bill Entourage Help Page Entourage Help Blog YouTalk Twitter: follow From gvon.1 at cox.net Mon Sep 28 14:35:57 2009 From: gvon.1 at cox.net (George) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:35:57 -0700 Subject: Date bug In-Reply-To: <20090926230653.YGPS21192.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> Message-ID: 9/22/09 10:40 AM Diane Ross > I use iStat Menus to show time in my Menu bar. You can edit it, to show > exactly what we used to be able to do. I'll send you a screenshot off list > to show you the options. You can then turn off the system's date & time and > use iStat. What version of iStat are you using? I can find 2.0 but cannot find v.111. istat has several features: CPU, memory, activity, sensors and date time. Can I implement just the date time? imac 10.6.1 MBP 10..8 George From dianeross at mvps.org Mon Sep 28 19:08:55 2009 From: dianeross at mvps.org (Diane Ross) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:08:55 -0700 Subject: Date bug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 9/28/09 11:35 AM, "George" wrote: > What version of iStat are you using? I can find 2.0 but cannot find v.111. > istat has several features: CPU, memory, activity, sensors and date time. > Can I implement just the date time? Yes, you can select only the modules you want. Are you looking for the iPhone v1.1?? -- Diane From Tevfik.Cetin at nokia.com Tue Sep 29 07:50:01 2009 From: Tevfik.Cetin at nokia.com (Tevfik.Cetin at nokia.com) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:50:01 +0200 Subject: Offline Mode in Entourage Message-ID: Hi, According to Entourage help when you work offline, your send mail will be placed in Outbox and will be send next time when you get online. However in practice every time I try to send an email I receive a warning message with options: * Go online * Cancel * Connect Only if I select ?Cancel? it places the mail into the Outbox. The message is misleading and it is very annoying to get it every time you press send. It took some time for me to understand what was going on and why offline mode is not working. Is it supposed to work like that or is there something wrong with EWS edition implementation? Regards, Tevfik From mecklists at comcast.net Tue Sep 29 21:45:17 2009 From: mecklists at comcast.net (William Smith) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 20:45:17 -0500 Subject: Offline Mode in Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:50:01 +0200 > > Only if I select ?Cancel? it places the mail into the Outbox. The message is > misleading and it is very annoying to get it every time you press send. It > took some time for me to understand what was going on and why offline mode is > not working. > > Is it supposed to work like that or is there something wrong with EWS edition > implementation? I suspect you're hitting the "Send" button when what you really want is the "Send Later" button. Open a new mail message and then select View --> Customize Toolbar... Add the "Send Later" button to your toolbar and delete the "Send" button if you desire. Optionally, instead of typing Command-Return to send a message *now*, you can type Shift-Command-Return. Hope this helps! -- bill Entourage Help Page Entourage Help Blog YouTalk Twitter: follow From mecklists at comcast.net Tue Sep 29 23:50:13 2009 From: mecklists at comcast.net (William Smith) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:50:13 -0500 Subject: [ANN] The Entourage Help Blog: Work around Entourage Web Services Edition installer issues Message-ID: Entourage 2008 users trying to switch to Microsoft Entourage 2008 for Mac, Web Services Edition, may find the installer refuses to install the software because: "At least one of your e-mail accounts does not meet the requirements necessary for Entourage 2008, Web Services Edition. Installing Entourage 2008, Web Services Edition will make one or more of your e-mail accounts inaccessible." However, this message can be erroneous and it does not allow the person installing the software to override it and install anyway. While the message cannot be overridden, it can be worked around. Continue reading at or . -- bill Entourage Help Page Entourage Help Blog YouTalk Twitter: follow From Tevfik.Cetin at nokia.com Wed Sep 30 04:16:54 2009 From: Tevfik.Cetin at nokia.com (Tevfik.Cetin at nokia.com) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:16:54 +0200 Subject: Offline Mode in Entourage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, I was not aware of "Send later" button. I was expecting Outlook like Offline Mode usage. Thank you for the tip. I believe this will not help when I accept meeting invitation but I can live with that. Regards, Tevfik > From: ext William Smith > Reply-To: YouTalk mailing list for discussion of Microsoft Entourage > > Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:45:17 +0200 > To: Entourage Help Page mailing list > Subject: Re: Offline Mode in Entourage > >> From: >> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:50:01 +0200 >> >> Only if I select ?Cancel? it places the mail into the Outbox. The message is >> misleading and it is very annoying to get it every time you press send. It >> took some time for me to understand what was going on and why offline mode is >> not working. >> >> Is it supposed to work like that or is there something wrong with EWS edition >> implementation? > > I suspect you're hitting the "Send" button when what you really want is the > "Send Later" button. > > Open a new mail message and then select View --> Customize Toolbar... Add > the "Send Later" button to your toolbar and delete the "Send" button if you > desire. > > Optionally, instead of typing Command-Return to send a message *now*, you > can type Shift-Command-Return. > > Hope this helps! > > -- > > bill > > Entourage Help Page > Entourage Help Blog > YouTalk > Twitter: follow > > > -- > YouTalk mailing list > List address: youtalk at entourage.mvps.org > List information: http://entourage.mvps.org/support_options/list.html > List moderator: listmom at entourage.mvps.org, dianeross at mvps.org > To unsubscribe: mailto:youtalk-request at entourage.mvps.org?subject=unsubscribe