[Hackrf-dev] How to tell if antenna is faulty

Jonathan Guthrie ka8kpn at ka8kpn.org
Tue Feb 5 15:29:57 EST 2019


The MIL-STD-348 is available for download, by the way.  You can get the 
link from the Wikipedia article on the SMA connector.

On 2/5/2019 2:21 PM, Chuck McManis wrote:
> Technically there is only *one* SMA connector, it is defined in 
> MIL-STD-348. There is also "RP-SMA" which has the same mechanical 
> dimensions but swaps the pin and socket locations from the outer 
> threaded version to the inner threaded version.
>
> That said, a vendor might confuse them and call some random connector 
> "SMA" (I have seen TV types refer to the  75 ohm "F" connector as an 
> SMA connector incorrectly)
> --Chuck
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 8:53 AM cliff palmer <palmercliff at gmail.com 
> <mailto:palmercliff at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     I tried to order a multimeter test lead that fits SMA connectors
>     so I can have an easier time testing antennas.
>     It turns out that "SMA Connector" can mean a lot of different
>     sizes and types.
>     Does anyone have the male and female core diameter for the SMA
>     connectors used by the HackRF One?
>     Thanks!
>
>     On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:22 PM Michael Ossmann <mike at ossmann.com
>     <mailto:mike at ossmann.com>> wrote:
>
>         Cliff,
>
>         That sounds like a faulty ANT500.  Please contact your
>         reseller for a
>         replacement.  Send a private email to me and
>         info at greatscottgadgets.com <mailto:info at greatscottgadgets.com>
>         if you run into any problems with that.
>
>         The two most common faults of ANT500 and ANT700 are a short
>         between the
>         center pin and shield ground or a break in continuity between
>         the center
>         pin and the antenna element.  Both of these conditions can be
>         tested
>         with a continuity tester.
>
>         The DC resistance between the center pin and the antenna
>         element is
>         unspecified, but I think it should be stable and low enough to
>         cause a
>         continuity tester to beep.
>
>         Michael
>
>
>         On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 09:45:58AM -0500, cliff palmer wrote:
>         >
>         > Jake, the reading between the tip of the antenna and the
>         center pin varied
>         > wildly - so much that I borrowed another multi-meter to
>         confirm them.  The
>         > readings went from zero to 160+ and back.  I did secure the
>         antenna and the
>         > multi-meter leads to make sure my hands weren't the cause of
>         the variation.
>         > It looks like the antenna is faulty.
>         > Thanks for the hint on CQRX.
>         >
>         > I am using the Hackrf with the Ant500 as a starting place to
>         learn enough
>         > about SDR to tap RF data feeds from NOAA Buoys. These buoys
>         measure water
>         > temp, wind speed and direction, wave direction, height and
>         frequency.  The
>         > buoy data will be fed into an FPGA/RISC board to calculate
>         and display
>         > marine navigation conditions, much like your local weather
>         forecast
>         > includes a wind speed and direction display.
>         > There's no way that the Ant500 will be the right antenna for
>         this.  I got
>         > it because I needed a starting place and a number of YouTube
>         tutorials on
>         > SDR used it with the Hackrf.  Once I know more about what I
>         am doing I'll
>         > be pestering you all again for advice on antennas.
>         >
>         > Thanks again
>         > Cliff
>         >
>         > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:24 PM Gavin Jacobs
>         <apriljunkbox at hotmail.com <mailto:apriljunkbox at hotmail.com>>
>         > wrote:
>         >
>         > > Cliff,
>         > > I have a hackrf and an Ant500. With the antenna fully
>         extended, you should
>         > > measure a very low resistance between the tip of the
>         antenna and the center
>         > > pin of the connector. Mine was about 2 ohms. If you have
>         75 ohms, then
>         > > there is a problem. Try again between the center pin and
>         the elbow (where
>         > > the extensions start) - it should be very low < 1 ohm.
>         > >
>         > > You should be able to use GQRX to receive an FM radio
>         station, with almost
>         > > any antenna. Most common rookie mistake is forgetting to
>         turn up the IF
>         > > gain.
>         > >
>         > > Tell us more about your setup and we can help you get started.
>         > >
>         > > Jake
>         > >
>         > > ------------------------------
>         > > *From:* HackRF-dev
>         <hackrf-dev-bounces at greatscottgadgets.com
>         <mailto:hackrf-dev-bounces at greatscottgadgets.com>> on behalf
>         > > of cliff palmer <palmercliff at gmail.com
>         <mailto:palmercliff at gmail.com>>
>         > > *Sent:* January 30, 2019 3:15 PM
>         > > *To:* hackrf-dev at greatscottgadgets.com
>         <mailto:hackrf-dev at greatscottgadgets.com>
>         > > *Subject:* [Hackrf-dev] How to tell if antenna is faulty
>         > >
>         > > I have a Hackrf One with an Ant500 Antenna and I am having
>         no luck with
>         > > multiple tutorials found on YouTube, including the ones at
>         Great Scott
>         > > Gadgets.  I measured the resistance on the (disconnected
>         but fully
>         > > extended) Ant500 Antenna using a multimeter (one lead on
>         the metal part of
>         > > the antenna and the other on the male lead in the
>         connector.  The
>         > > multi-meter measured up to 75 Ohm resistance.
>         > > I'm really new to SDR and so I don't know if resistance
>         should concern me,
>         > > but it seems like an antenna should not have resistance.
>         > > I would appreciate some advice about how to determine if
>         this is really a
>         > > problem (and the antenna is faulty) or if I am making a
>         typical new-to-SDR
>         > > mistake.
>         > > Thanks
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