[IPAC-List] Does the day you take an oral exam matter? -Killingthe Mess...

[Brull, Harry]

I support Don's observations about orientation. 
In my experience, "Tell them what you are going to do and do what you
told them" goes a long way.
I also make an audio or video tape of orientation for two purposes:
	-access to those who were unable to make the orientation session
	-documentation in case of later allegations
(I have never needed to use it for the later purpose)
Harry


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[mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org] On Behalf Of Don Nott
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Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Does the day you take an oral exam matter?
-Killingthe Mess...

The interesting thing that I've found is that after we provide Candidate
orientation, some candidates express that they trust us (an outside
consulting firm) more than their own hierarchy!  Transparency and
understanding is big component in alleviating candidate skepticism of
testing.  

Perhaps it's basic psychology, but I'd love to see some data on
candidates' perceived testing experiences with, and without, candidate
orientation; my money is on that they would be significantly higher with
an orientation that helped the candidate's understanding of the process
and what to expect.  The bottom line would be reducing the likelihood
and cost of grievances.  The tricky part would be collecting the data
without social monitoring errors (i.e., I better say I liked it because
it might impact my results)

A couple more pennies to throw in the till. 


:Don


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Donald M. Nott
I/O Associate
  
Fields Consulting Group
7926 Jones Branch Drive
McLean, VA 22102
(703) 506-9400 

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-Killing the Mess...

I have some interesting anecdotes including small # data on folks who,  
through deception, took the same test twice and post test applicant
perception  
that I never followed up on. I do want to chip in with two observations:
First, while police are special, I've had similar experiences with
Social  
workers and accountant/auditors.
Second, while there is some distrust of testing, I believe it is more
about  
how the results are manipulated and used rather than the testing itself.
While 
 cops usually don't trust non-cops to have much to do with their  
selection/promotion, they also don't trust police command. That is a
major  reason for 
their drive (and Firefighters) to have contractual "rule of the  list". 
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