[IPAC-List] Candidate Reduction Strategies

[Patrick McCoy]

An alternative to charging applicants to do a test would be to use
minimum qualifications and un-proctored internet testing. The
un-proctored testing would then be followed up by proctored testing to
deter and catch cheaters.  We have started to use this approach in
Canada in large campaigns-large for us at least- though I am sketchy on
the details.
 
Pat McCoy,
Ottawa


>>> Saul Fine <saulfine at zahav.net.il> 2012/03/13 4:30 AM >>>

I like the idea of charging a small fee to apply (assuming that is what

Harry meant).
Not only might it help cover some of the costs per hire, but perhaps
deter 
some of the less serious candidates from applying as well.
I know of some public agencies and universities that do this outside of
the 
US (unfortunately, their fees are not at all modest...).
But, my guess is that most commercial firms would have a hard time
getting 
away with this.
Saul.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Harry.Brull at pdinh.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:26 PM
To: sebe at erols.com ; david at friedlandhr.com
Cc: IPAC-List at ipacweb.org ; Adele.Demooy at mwrd.org
Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Candidate Reduction Strategies

How about charging a modest fee instead? Use a screening tool that
quickly and cheaply (and, of course, validly) reduces the candidare
pool
to a more manageable number.

Harry Brull

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org] On Behalf Of Lance Seberhagen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 3:19 PM
To: David Friedland
Cc: IPAC-List at ipacweb.org; 'Demooy, Adele'
Subject: Re: [IPAC-List] Candidate Reduction Strategies

I agree with Dave's point that using random selection to reduce the
number of applicants to be tested can cause anger and disappointment
by
applicants, particularly those who believe they have a "right" to be
tested or have a family tradition of working for a particular agency.
Most of these objections can be overcome if the restrictions on
testing
are well publicized and fully explained in advance, and if appropriate
steps are taken to ensure that the random selection process is, in
fact,
totally honest and random.

Lance Seberhagen, Ph.D.
Seberhagen & Associates
9021 Trailridge Ct
Vienna, VA 22182
Tel 703-790-0796
www.seberhagen.com



On 3/12/2012 3:43 PM, David Friedland wrote:

> I will be very interested to read the comments to this post. This

> approach has logical appeal, but has some potential unintended

> consequences. For exams that will attract large numbers of

applicants

> you will need to carefully determine how to select the

pre-determined
number of applications.

> For example:

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>

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> .         Randomly select the desired number of applicants after all

> applications are received - This risks angering some of those who

were


> randomly excluded from consideration. If the examination is

considered


> to be open and competitive this approach may be considered to

prevent

> job-related competition

>

> .         Accept only a pre-determined number of applications based

on
when

> they are received (for example, using time stamps) - This method can

> raise a risk of favoritism, bias or nepotism if some individuals or

> protected groups may have advance knowledge or earlier knowledge

than

> others of the job announcement

>

> .         Danger of being too popular - I know of at least one

instance when

> the crush of applicants hoping to be among the first group resulted

in


> some injuries and damage to the recruitment office

>

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> On Behalf Of Demooy, Adele

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> Subject: [IPAC-List] Candidate Reduction Strategies

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> For economic reasons we are looking into ways to reduce the number

of

> candidates who participate in exams.  One option we are considering

is


> accepting a predetermined number of applications based on statistics

> from previous exam administrations.  I am interested in your

feedback

> on this approach or learning about any other methods you are using.

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