[IPAC-List] Turnover

Thu Aug 9 11:55:14 EDT 2018

The Federal Government has recently issued two reports that deal with the
issue of creating a high engagement or psychologically healthy workforce.
The report are free, deal with the government, and you might find them
useful. The reports are:

GAO (July 2015). Federal workforce: Additional analysis and sharing of
promising practices could improve employee engagement. GAO-15-585
available: http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-15-585
OPM (2016). The keys to unlocking engagement: An analysis of the conditions
that drive employee engagement. Available:
https://www.fedview.opm.gov/2016FILES/Keys_Unlocking_Engagement.pdf

I became aware of these because a similar discussion was going on on the
Society of Consulting Psychology listserv. The issue if increased turnover
is one that is economy wide and certainly not limited to the public sector.

Dennis

On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:48 AM Dennis Doverspike <
dennisdoverspike at gmail.com> wrote:

> Some suggestions or questions with regard to declinations:
>
> 1. What is the total time between posting the job and the offer? One issue
> for the public sector, in general, is a long time lag between the initial
> posting of the job and the offer.
>
> 2. Do people know the salary or salary range up front? We just had this
> discussion on twitter. Today's job applicant wants to see salary and
> benefit information up front. My experience with organizations is that many
> are reluctant to discuss salary and benefits until fairly late in the
> hiring process. A friend of mine who was recently hired in the public
> sector was not told what the benefits would be until they reported for
> their orientation, and they are still uncertain as to all of what their
> benefit package entails, almost a year later. And, of course, are your
> salaries competitive?
>
> 3. In addition to unemployment rates, which are a huge factor, I would
> hypothesize that the Internet makes it easier to apply for multiple jobs in
> a quick and easy fashion. It would be interesting to see if the average job
> applicant is applying for more jobs at the same time then they did in the
> past. And whether applying for more jobs results in more offers.
>
> 4. I believe that working in water reclamation, even in many professional
> jobs, exposes an individual to working or environment conditions that most
> of us are rarely exposed to and in many cases do not even consider. Do you
> include some type of realistic job preview in the hiring process,
> explaining what is involved in water reclamation? I would probably put a
> realistic job preview right up front.
>
> On turnover:
>
> 1. The general trend is that voluntary turnover is increasing, while the
> percentage of turnover due to involuntary turnover seems to be decreasing
> (not sure why the decrease in involuntary turnover). The major reason for
> voluntary turnover remains salary. However, many organizations cannot or
> will not do much about salary. So, that leaves those areas that
> organizations can do something about.  Do you conduct a regular attitude or
> engagement survey? Do you look at drivers of attitudes, engagement, and
> intention to stay (and I will admit there are a large number of statistical
> issues with driver analysis).
>
> Dennis Doverspike
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:31 AM Demooy, Adele <DemooyA at mwrd.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you all for your comments.  In terms of declinations, we went from
>> a low of three in 2011 and to date in 2018, we are at 40.  We are
>> observing declinations across all job classifications….from high level
>> managerial positions (Head Buyer)  to entry level (lab technician,
>> accounting associate, skilled trades, even laborers).   We know that work
>> is plentiful right now – but this trend is a significant change from what
>> we have experienced in prior years.
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>> Now we are contemplating what changes we may need to make to remain an
>> employer of choice – for example, flex time and teleworking.
>>
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>> *From:* IPAC-List [mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org] *On Behalf Of *Lance
>> Anderson
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2018 9:39 AM
>> *To:* RICHARD F. TONOWSKI <RICHARD.TONOWSKI at EEOC.GOV>; '
>> IPAC-List at ipacweb.org' <IPAC-List at ipacweb.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [IPAC-List] Turnover
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>> I agree with Rich that it’s probably the economy.
>>
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>> From the Bureau of Labor Statistic’s July report:
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>> The unemployment rate for those without a high school diploma fell to 5.1
>> percent in July, the lowest since the government began collecting data on
>> such workers in 1992.
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>> https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
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>> Lance
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>> *Lance Anderson, PhD*
>> Director, Federal Talent Management
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>> *From:* IPAC-List [mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org
>> <ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org>] *On Behalf Of *RICHARD F. TONOWSKI
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 9, 2018 10:27 AM
>> *To:* 'IPAC-List at ipacweb.org' <IPAC-List at ipacweb.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [IPAC-List] Turnover
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>> SHRM has been running articles on “ghosting:” new hires fail to show up,
>> or they start work and then disappear.  They do not communicate their
>> intentions to the employer.  These could be further indicators of an
>> emerging trend of applicant disinterest in “less attractive” jobs.  Maybe
>> this trend  is a consequence of the economy being close to full employment.
>>
>>
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>> *From:* IPAC-List [mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org
>> <ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org>] *On Behalf Of *Shekerjian, Rene (CS)
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 09, 2018 10:09 AM
>> *To:* Demooy, Adele <DemooyA at mwrd.org>; 'IPAC-List at ipacweb.org' <
>> IPAC-List at ipacweb.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [IPAC-List] Turnover
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>> A quick note. NYS has seen a decrease in the number of applicants for
>> certain exams in the past 3 or so years. The numbers show a spike around
>> 2010, that I would attribute to the 2008 meltdown. The spike lasted until
>> approx. 2016. The exams I have looked at were for the less attractive job
>> titles.
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>> René
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>> René Shekerjian
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>> Director, Testing Services Division
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>>
>> *Department of Civil Service*
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>> Empire State Plaza, Agency Building 1, Albany, NY 12239
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>> (518) 474-2105 | Rene.Shekerjian at cs.ny.gov
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>> www.cs.ny.gov
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>> *From:* Demooy, Adele [mailto:DemooyA at mwrd.org <DemooyA at mwrd.org>]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 08, 2018 12:36 PM
>> *To:* 'IPAC-List at ipacweb.org' <IPAC-List at ipacweb.org>
>> *Subject:* [IPAC-List] Turnover
>>
>>
>>
>> The Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Greater Chicago has
>> experienced a marked increase in the number of job offer declinations and
>> turnover in the past five years.  As the same time we are experiencing
>> smaller applicant pools for original entrance recruitments.  We’re
>> interested in learning if other agencies are noticing a similar trend and
>> if it has resulted in changes in your selection processes, employee
>> benefits, etc.
>>
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> Dennis Doverspike, PhD., ABPP
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