[IPAC-List] Full List of Managerial KSAPs ?

Tue May 9 11:00:02 EDT 2017

Given all the hype about EI, it is reasonable that many believe that EI is
a useful construct. However, EI, as a psychological construct, is a load of
horse manure. A good psychological construct should not be highly
correlated with known and well-established constructs. The mixed model form
of EI is almost completely redundant with the Big 5 (with an emphasis on
emotional stability). The ability model form of EI is almost completely
redundant with the Big 5 and cognitive ability.

With reference to the most commonly used ability model measure (MSCEIT), it
is oddly scored. When scored more reasonably, it is a *g* measure.

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It is harmful to the credibility of our field to use bogus competencies.

Best wishes,

Mike

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Richmond, Brandi <
Brandi.Richmond at baltimorecity.gov> wrote:

> Excellent!  Thanks for sharing; the only term I would add is Emotional
> Intelligence which is also referred to as EI.
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> *From:* IPAC-List [mailto:ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org] *On Behalf Of *Harry
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> *Sent:* Thursday, May 04, 2017 12:20 PM
> *To:* Shekerjian, Rene (CS); Joel Wiesen; IPAC-List
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> *Subject:* Re: [IPAC-List] Full List of Managerial KSAPs ?
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> As sacrilegious as it seems, I’m fond of saying “No matter how you slice
> pizza, it’s still pizza.
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> Here’s a managerial model that’s worked well for me for 38 years.
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> <ipac-list-bounces at ipacweb.org>] *On Behalf Of *Shekerjian, Rene (CS)
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> *Subject:* Re: [IPAC-List] Full List of Managerial KSAPs ?
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> Just a quick thought. When I was looking into managerial competencies some
> years back, I found that different sources had very different approaches.
> They all had areas such as critical thinking, interpersonal, writing,
> problem solving, etc., but some divided the domain into 7 or 8 competencies
> and others had several hundred competencies. And of course, there were
> those who fell somewhere in between.
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> By the way, Aon consulting did a pretty interesting presentation at a
> MAPAC conference in 2008 on best practices in competency modelling. Maybe
> they have developed a model for managerial competencies.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joel Wiesen [mailto:jwiesen at appliedpersonnelresearch.com
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 1:57 PM
> To: IPAC-List
> Subject: [IPAC-List] Full List of Managerial KSAPs ?
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> Seeking a list of generic managerial KSAPs, reasonably current and
> exhaustive (intellectual, interpersonal, personality).  (O-Net was not
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> Any suggestions?
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> Thanks.
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